"""""Take this one cub artist who actually did hurt real children for example, does that prove the art caused the person to offend? Nope because the person was already a pedophile or had certain other mental problems before likely. Heck I argued that if the person didn't have access to fiction in the first place, the person would probably go after real children sooner. Maybe it's bad if the fiction was destracting the person in wrong areas but again that seems like a separate situation.""""
You know that I agree with this take, right? It's Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc (the counter point to which is, AS YOU SAID YOURSELF, Correlation Does Not Equal Causation). When someone does a skool sh00ting and the so-called "investigators" like Jack Thompson dig through his personal items like his CD's and video games and he spots something "problematic" like an ICP album or a GTA game and says "AH-HAH, it was THIS that made him do that sh00ting!" That's a Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc.
Just because he had those CD's or Games doesn't mean they are the CAUSE / TRIGGER that caused it!
As for whether or not someone draws cub being used as some kind of "Litmus Test" well it doesn't always work! What about Frank Gembeck??? He was a fairly popular Furry Artist back in the EARLY DAYS of this fandom, that Frank Gembeck guy never drew one single piece of Furry Artwork that could even be classified as being "Cub" and YET -- Frank was STILL busted for having entire hard drives worth of actual genuine CSEM.... so clearly whether or not someone draws Cub Art or consumes Cub Art isn't the most perfect measuring stick for "purity."
As for "canceling furries" -- do you remember the situation with Hearth Fox where they were constantly being harassed and called a Dog Fxxker despite not actually being a z00phile??? You wanna know the reason why Hearth Fox was being attacked online??? Because they defended a friend who drew or consumed Feral Furry Art... and people on Twitter actually threatened to beat up Hearth Fox or STEAL their Wiggle Fox puppet... Hearth Fox didn't say anything out of the ordinary either, all they did was say "Cartoon Drawings Aren't Real" -- a sentiment I personally AGREE WITH...
Hearth Fox didn't deserve that level of concentrated HATE... but of course, leave it to New Puritan Furs on Twitter to take things out of context and BLOW IT OUT OF PROPORTION.... you CANNOT trust the New Generation of Furries to behave nicely, because years and years of Tumblr and Twitter Indoctrination has made them RABID & BLOODTHIRSTY & HATEFUL....
This is not the same Furry Fandom of the middle 2000s... it's a whole different animal.... (hahaha, get it?).... the Old Generation didn't care one little bit if a person drew Buster Bunny or Tails pr0nz... the Old Generation didn't care one little bit if you drew Lion King or Balto pr0nz or Scooby Doo pr0nz... the Old Generation didn't care if you did weird kinky acts with your inanimate cartoon Plushies... nobody CARED about any of that....
BUT THE "NEW GENERATION" CARES... and they will straight up BURN YOU AT THE STAKE for it.... they're INSANE.
"""""Take this one cub artist who actually did hurt real children for example, does that prove the art caused the person to offend? Nope because the person was already a pedophile or had certain other mental problems before likely. Heck I argued that if the person didn't have access to fiction in the first place, the person would probably go after real children sooner. Maybe it's bad if the fiction was destracting the person in wrong areas but again that seems like a separate situation.""""
You know that I agree with this take, right? It's Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc (the counter point to which is, AS YOU SAID YOURSELF, Correlation Does Not Equal Causation). When someone does a skool sh00ting and the so-called "investigators" like Jack Thompson dig through his personal items like his CD's and video games and he spots something "problematic" like an ICP album or a GTA game and says "AH-HAH, it was THIS that made him do that sh00ting!" That's a Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc.
Just because he had those CD's or Games doesn't mean they are the CAUSE / TRIGGER that caused it!
As for whether or not someone draws cub being used as some kind of "Litmus Test" well it doesn't always work! What about Frank Gembeck??? He was a fairly popular Furry Artist back in the EARLY DAYS of this fandom, that Frank Gembeck guy never drew one single piece of Furry Artwork that could even be classified as being "Cub" and YET -- Frank was STILL busted for having entire hard drives worth of actual genuine CSEM.... so clearly whether or not someone draws Cub Art or consumes Cub Art isn't the most perfect measuring stick for "purity."
As for "canceling furries" -- do you remember the situation with Hearth Fox where they were constantly being harassed and called a Dog Fxxker despite not actually being a z00phile??? You wanna know the reason why Hearth Fox was being attacked online??? Because they defended a friend who drew or consumed Feral Furry Art... and people on Twitter actually threatened to beat up Hearth Fox or STEAL their Wiggle Fox puppet... Hearth Fox didn't say anything out of the ordinary either, all they did was say "Cartoon Drawings Aren't Real" -- a sentiment I personally AGREE WITH...
Hearth Fox didn't deserve that level of concentrated HATE... but of course, leave it to New Puritan Furs on Twitter to take things out of context and BLOW IT OUT OF PROPORTION.... you CANNOT trust the New Generation of Furries to behave nicely, because years and years of Tumblr and Twitter Indoctrination has made them RABID & BLOODTHIRSTY & HATEFUL....
This is not the same Furry Fandom of the middle 2000s... it's a whole different animal.... (hahaha, get it?).... the Old Generation didn't care one little bit if a person drew Buster Bunny or Tails pr0nz... the Old Generation didn't care one little bit if you drew Lion King or Balto pr0nz or Scooby Doo pr0nz... the Old Generation didn't care if you did weird kinky acts with your inanimate cartoon Plushies... nobody CARED about any of that....
BUT THE "NEW GENERATION" CARES... and they will straight up BURN YOU AT THE STAKE for it.... they're INSANE.