The Selene Luna litterbox story on Fur What It's Worth (2016)
8 years after the fact, Selene claimed to be an eyewitness to happenings at the Anthrocon hotel, at the time she was filming My Bloody Valentine (released January 16, 2009.)
That synchs with the 2008 radio joke I traced. The Pittsburgh broadcaster repeated it on a blog, it's hard to pinpoint it to a show, but the context says that's why he told it. The guy said "the best story we heard this week" came from a hotel security guard.
There's also a show from 2007, where another radio guy joked that hotel staff told him they revived furries who suffocated in a furball. Sure they did. ;)
And an Anthrocon co-founder posted on their forum how the "bonafide urban legend" rose from the radio with people always "insisting eyewitness veracity"... "It’s proven to stick with the same tenacity of CSI and Vanity Fair. The inclusion of this in the respective comment thus throws every prior claim into question as well."
Selene Luna's comment matches all that, but what if she actually saw something 8 years earlier? I wouldn't say a burlesque comedy/slasher movie performer from reality shows (with scripted "reality") is lying when she tells entertaining stories. It's just easy for lines to blur in the memory, and entertainers don't have to act like they report sober facts.
There's a choice between believing her 8 years later -- or a con co-founder who wasn't trying to answer current controversy, who posted about it deep on a forum, not for the general public or entertainment.
On Fur What It's Worth, Selene says she "saw with my own eyes": controversy between furries, housekeeping was in uproar about it, litterboxes in the hall, a smackdown in the lobby, and if there were "tootsie rolls" she didn't check -- allegedly.
We know how gossip goes wild in the fandom. If her story is real, how likely is it we can't trace controversy to any furry sources, only widely-heard radio jokes?
It also might be worth saying, consider the source. Selene Luna did naughty burlesque comedy. As a little person, her "best known act" was riffing on the old cartoons where a baby would be a bank robber or have a cigar. She would come out of a baby carriage:
It really tickles me when people are offended. I just thought it was cute and enchanting, but there’s always someone in the audience that doesn’t know how to react to me and I kind of get a rise out of it like I’m punking them.
Her story was told to show host Tugs, a babyfur, who segues from the litterbox story to mentioning diapers... did she play to the room?
Maybe she wouldn't care about that, but I would bet her and Margaret Cho might not have gone on the show if they knew a few things... (I can't speak for them, but have interviewed Margaret.) Like Tugs' affiliation to zoophilia. The Fur What It's Worth theme song maker runs a notorious zoophile podcast that Tugs agreed to appear on. Some furries don't do the fandom any favors when it's a target of exaggeration.
I think calling this a credible witness story would be exaggeration, too.
Since I just did way too much tracing, why not...
The Selene Luna litterbox story on Fur What It's Worth (2016)
8 years after the fact, Selene claimed to be an eyewitness to happenings at the Anthrocon hotel, at the time she was filming My Bloody Valentine (released January 16, 2009.)
That synchs with the 2008 radio joke I traced. The Pittsburgh broadcaster repeated it on a blog, it's hard to pinpoint it to a show, but the context says that's why he told it. The guy said "the best story we heard this week" came from a hotel security guard.
There's also a show from 2007, where another radio guy joked that hotel staff told him they revived furries who suffocated in a furball. Sure they did. ;)
And an Anthrocon co-founder posted on their forum how the "bonafide urban legend" rose from the radio with people always "insisting eyewitness veracity"... "It’s proven to stick with the same tenacity of CSI and Vanity Fair. The inclusion of this in the respective comment thus throws every prior claim into question as well."
Selene Luna's comment matches all that, but what if she actually saw something 8 years earlier? I wouldn't say a burlesque comedy/slasher movie performer from reality shows (with scripted "reality") is lying when she tells entertaining stories. It's just easy for lines to blur in the memory, and entertainers don't have to act like they report sober facts.
There's a choice between believing her 8 years later -- or a con co-founder who wasn't trying to answer current controversy, who posted about it deep on a forum, not for the general public or entertainment.
On Fur What It's Worth, Selene says she "saw with my own eyes": controversy between furries, housekeeping was in uproar about it, litterboxes in the hall, a smackdown in the lobby, and if there were "tootsie rolls" she didn't check -- allegedly.
We know how gossip goes wild in the fandom. If her story is real, how likely is it we can't trace controversy to any furry sources, only widely-heard radio jokes?
It also might be worth saying, consider the source. Selene Luna did naughty burlesque comedy. As a little person, her "best known act" was riffing on the old cartoons where a baby would be a bank robber or have a cigar. She would come out of a baby carriage:
Her story was told to show host Tugs, a babyfur, who segues from the litterbox story to mentioning diapers... did she play to the room?
Maybe she wouldn't care about that, but I would bet her and Margaret Cho might not have gone on the show if they knew a few things... (I can't speak for them, but have interviewed Margaret.) Like Tugs' affiliation to zoophilia. The Fur What It's Worth theme song maker runs a notorious zoophile podcast that Tugs agreed to appear on. Some furries don't do the fandom any favors when it's a target of exaggeration.
I think calling this a credible witness story would be exaggeration, too.