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Fred had actually joined Patch during the second 'downtime'.

Flayrah has had three historical significant down-times.

One before GreenReaper took over as editor in chief and the original owners were thinking of just letting it go.

The second one was when GreenReaper acquired Inkbunny and he was still the sole editor on the site. It was at this time the DogPatch made focused on his site and brought fred with him. About a month or so later, crossaffliction was given editorial role.

A situation arose why cross resigned his position which is the one that Dronon was referring to, but at that time DogPatchPress and Fred were already well established on the new site. That's when we were brought on.

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