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What are you talking about? Liberty and free markets go hand in hand. That's a blatant contradiction. Unless you're a Marxist who believes in self-contradictory ideas like "Slave-wages" and "property is theft".

Wow, like debating a Scientologist when you question their fundamental illogic and they scream back at you "WIFE-BEATER!" Free-markets and liberty do not go hand-in-hand because - and this is unarguable - any group of associated individuals, whether public or private institutions, government or industry, have the power _and incentive_ to trample on the individual's (YOUR) rights. YOUR rights are fundamental, not governments nor private industry. What part of this statement do you need me to explain?

Corporations have different incentives and powers, but, key, their's is still far more than yours ever will be.

What *liberty* to be able to buy a computer that isn't pre-infected with Windows, the *liberty* to not pay that $25 charge tacked on for an OS you do not plan to use? What *liberty* to reverse-engineer a piece of hardware I own so I can make it do what I need? What *liberty* to be able to choose a car that is safe to drive - and *liberty* to be informed if something is found on that car that may kill someone - and the *liberty* to have that potential defect fixed? What *liberty* to keep myself healthy and eating foods free of deadly contaminents, and the *liberty* to be told IF and HOW contaminents get into products? What *liberty* to travel where I want with the ease of knowledge that the airline/cruiseline/busline hires mentally-ill or incompetent pilots or mechanics? What *liberty* to live on a planet that keeps breaking records in climate conditions and devastating hurricanes. etc.

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