I'm not sure who you are, though you know who I am.
Who exactly told me that "ConFurence was out of control"? The people on Alt-Fan-Furry? I didn't participate in those flame-wars. If anyone was representing me, it without my knowledge.
The only "oft quoted" item about ConFurence being "out of control" was a letter posted on Alt-Fan-Furry by a Ed Kline who was rather homophobic and didn't like the fact that his wife didn't make very much money in the charity slave auction. Everything else in the letter was pure BS and easily debunked. For example, the "stains in the elevator" were from wet bathing suits, as the hotel pool was not on the ground floor.
"Behavioral Restrictions" don't prevent anyone from doing anything. We always asked attendees to be polite and civil. Wasting pages in the con book (which no one ever reads anyway) with pages of "rules" served no purpose but to have something to point to if someone did something stupid. As to who was "begging" me to "install and enforce" codes... Who? Alt-Fan-furry again?
In several panels and on interviews, I talked about what Furry meant to me and some others I knew. I had nothing to do with the content of some of the sensationalist reports that may have included my statements. Yes, I said that an aspect of being furry involved sexuality. I was speaking from my experience, and I believe that has been the case for many involved in Furry. So what? You and whoever disagrees is welcome to say what you believe, too.
Yes, we set out collections of furry art at our tables, some was mature in nature. You could find mature art all over Comic Con in those days.
I know for a fact about the non-writer policy of Rowerbrazzle... I was a member. When Fred Patten took over as editor, many members were not happy with his editorial and review articles, and it took a long time before other writers were welcome (mainly due to Fred kicking down the door). Yes, there are writers in APAs... Many APAs were founded by writers... they just weren't very welcome in 'Brazzle in the beginning. People who were "just fans" were not likely to even know about 'Brazzle, and if they found out, they would have to meet the same criteria as any other member to be a part of the APA.
You obviously have a very personal dislike of mature-themed media and of anyone who openly speaks about their life choices. You have every right to speak out, as long as you make it clear that it's your opinion.
As to communication regarding ConFurence... Myself and my partner Rodney never received any mail or e-mail or telephone calls (even though our contact information was readily available) about the convention being "out of control". Discussions and the flame-wars on the Alt groups were mentioned at planning meetings and everyone was aware of them. When an issue was valid, it was dealt with, other wise, the BS was ignored.
Just repeating, over and over again, rumors created by attention-seeking trolls from the past and claiming it's "history" does not make it so.
I'm not sure who you are, though you know who I am.
Who exactly told me that "ConFurence was out of control"? The people on Alt-Fan-Furry? I didn't participate in those flame-wars. If anyone was representing me, it without my knowledge.
The only "oft quoted" item about ConFurence being "out of control" was a letter posted on Alt-Fan-Furry by a Ed Kline who was rather homophobic and didn't like the fact that his wife didn't make very much money in the charity slave auction. Everything else in the letter was pure BS and easily debunked. For example, the "stains in the elevator" were from wet bathing suits, as the hotel pool was not on the ground floor.
"Behavioral Restrictions" don't prevent anyone from doing anything. We always asked attendees to be polite and civil. Wasting pages in the con book (which no one ever reads anyway) with pages of "rules" served no purpose but to have something to point to if someone did something stupid. As to who was "begging" me to "install and enforce" codes... Who? Alt-Fan-furry again?
In several panels and on interviews, I talked about what Furry meant to me and some others I knew. I had nothing to do with the content of some of the sensationalist reports that may have included my statements. Yes, I said that an aspect of being furry involved sexuality. I was speaking from my experience, and I believe that has been the case for many involved in Furry. So what? You and whoever disagrees is welcome to say what you believe, too.
Yes, we set out collections of furry art at our tables, some was mature in nature. You could find mature art all over Comic Con in those days.
I know for a fact about the non-writer policy of Rowerbrazzle... I was a member. When Fred Patten took over as editor, many members were not happy with his editorial and review articles, and it took a long time before other writers were welcome (mainly due to Fred kicking down the door). Yes, there are writers in APAs... Many APAs were founded by writers... they just weren't very welcome in 'Brazzle in the beginning. People who were "just fans" were not likely to even know about 'Brazzle, and if they found out, they would have to meet the same criteria as any other member to be a part of the APA.
You obviously have a very personal dislike of mature-themed media and of anyone who openly speaks about their life choices. You have every right to speak out, as long as you make it clear that it's your opinion.
As to communication regarding ConFurence... Myself and my partner Rodney never received any mail or e-mail or telephone calls (even though our contact information was readily available) about the convention being "out of control". Discussions and the flame-wars on the Alt groups were mentioned at planning meetings and everyone was aware of them. When an issue was valid, it was dealt with, other wise, the BS was ignored.
Just repeating, over and over again, rumors created by attention-seeking trolls from the past and claiming it's "history" does not make it so.
American Pine Marten